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It isn'tGreipel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:11 pmIt's Smithy and it has been cleared weeks ago.TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:08 pmWhy you saying that to him for?Greipel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:00 pmFuck off and die.IndyCarDavid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:34 pmThink it will be hard to backtrack on the PDC side now, after that Matt Porter interview.
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It's just Greipel though. He's a bit challenged.TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:40 pmNo it isn't, when we were all new we got a bit of stick but wasn't getting told to fuck off and die on literally every post because people thought we were multiples. It's becoming unfuckingbearable, no wonder nobody genuine bothersThe Thorn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:38 pmAgreed Malt but stop slurpingTheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:36 pmSorry that some are so rude, hope you keep posting here more regularlyIndyCarDavid wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:21 pm Yeah I've been claimed to be like 2 or 3 multiple accounts now which I guess is impressive in some way.
I can assure all I'm a new member and never registered before
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Well played to Deta for coming-out and speaking her mind. May be a controversial piece of writing to some but I'm glad she got her feelings out there.
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So it's hardly smithy
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It's very obviously not cheating. To cheat you have to break the rules.The iron chicken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:47 pm She is right. It's cheating in plain sight, and the jellyfish at the PDC/WDF are terrified of acting on it. They should call time on these labelled lady boys.
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Systems. Trans men would need their own system as well.daveboygreen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:46 pm Answer is pretty simple...As Deta says, The Ladies had to start from the ground and had to build and fight to get tournaments, prize monies etc, Let the Trans players do the same and create their own system to play in...That should surely keep everyone happy
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I think Deta's statement is very well written, even if I'm not sure I agree with it. I simply don't know enough on the subject to have a strong view either way. She has tried her utmost to not be offensive whilst stating her view on a very sensitive subject.
Where I struggle is that we're often told that darts is a sport (I know, but bear with me) where there is no gender based advantage so I'm not sure how big an issue a transgender player in Women's darts really is.
With that being said, I'm mindful of how cisgender women will feel about it - as a cis male it's not something that I'm ever going to truly understand or have to deal with.
I empathise with the WDF because any decision they make is likely to upset people. They're very much between a rock and a hard place.
Where I struggle is that we're often told that darts is a sport (I know, but bear with me) where there is no gender based advantage so I'm not sure how big an issue a transgender player in Women's darts really is.
With that being said, I'm mindful of how cisgender women will feel about it - as a cis male it's not something that I'm ever going to truly understand or have to deal with.
I empathise with the WDF because any decision they make is likely to upset people. They're very much between a rock and a hard place.
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Maybe she thinks Greaves is a man, but is OK with her playing anyway.Addicks Fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:37 pm Her point is inaccurate, I presume she doesn't know who the current Women's World Champion is and what she turned down? Also her point has no relevance to the WDF, where female (and, apparently, trans people) can't compete with men. Whether or not individuals mind is not the point, it is whether it is fair or not that matters. That is, after all, the whole reason male and female athletes do not compete against each other in most sports.
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Tbf women can compete with men in darts, I've always thought (especially on the PDC side) that the existence of gendered competition was more as a way to encourage women to take part rather than for reasons of 'fairness', but regardless of that, do you really think trans women would go to the lengths they do, all the medication, all the legal stuff, possibly even surgery, all to pick up a few lousy bob on the women's darts circuit? Laughable...The iron chicken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:47 pm She is right. It's cheating in plain sight, and the jellyfish at the PDC/WDF are terrified of acting on it. They should call time on these labelled lady boys.
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Which is all totally irrelevantthegentle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:50 pmTbf women can compete with men in darts, I've always thought (especially on the PDC side) that the existence of gendered competition was more as a way to encourage women to take part rather than for reasons of 'fairness', but regardless of that, do you really think trans women would go to the lengths they do, all the medication, all the legal stuff, possibly even surgery, all to pick up a few lousy bob on the women's darts circuit? Laughable...The iron chicken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:47 pm She is right. It's cheating in plain sight, and the jellyfish at the PDC/WDF are terrified of acting on it. They should call time on these labelled lady boys.
Men have proven better hand eye coordination than women meaning they will be better at darts
Even if they weren't women are being denied opportunity than deta has fought her entire career for.
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Quite a few women’s players liking and commenting on Deta’s post, good stuff, maybe someone else will speak out too
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Women are the sacrificial lamb for the trans movementTheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:55 pm Quite a few women’s players liking and commenting on Deta’s post, good stuff, maybe someone else will speak out too
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I thought it bad form to share at the time, seeing as his tweets are private, but Tony Martin (Ana's partner) was on twitter the other day saying that this was coming. The feeling amongst the women seems strong.TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:55 pm Quite a few women’s players liking and commenting on Deta’s post, good stuff, maybe someone else will speak out too
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Was always going to happenRogg wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:59 pmI thought it bad form to share at the time, seeing as his tweets are private, but Tony Martin (Ana's partner) was on twitter the other day saying that this was coming. The feeling amongst the women seems strong.TheMalteseDart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:55 pm Quite a few women’s players liking and commenting on Deta’s post, good stuff, maybe someone else will speak out too
The trans hate mob will descend on deta no doubt
No surprise she is the 1st 1 brave enough to speak up
Being a lady of colour discrimination will be nothing new to her I'm sure
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Well that slight disadvantage your average woman faces clearly isn't insurmountable, or else no woman would be able to compete with the men ever. I dare say all the stuff trans people have to do in order to transition is going to help them neither. As I say, I think the existence of women's darts is probably as much for social reasons, there's never been anything physically to stop them competing in a game where physicality is almost a non-factory, but I guess the traditional image of darts wasn't very woman-friendlyRandall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:53 pmWhich is all totally irrelevantthegentle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:50 pmTbf women can compete with men in darts, I've always thought (especially on the PDC side) that the existence of gendered competition was more as a way to encourage women to take part rather than for reasons of 'fairness', but regardless of that, do you really think trans women would go to the lengths they do, all the medication, all the legal stuff, possibly even surgery, all to pick up a few lousy bob on the women's darts circuit? Laughable...The iron chicken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:47 pm She is right. It's cheating in plain sight, and the jellyfish at the PDC/WDF are terrified of acting on it. They should call time on these labelled lady boys.
Men have proven better hand eye coordination than women meaning they will be better at darts
Even if they weren't women are being denied opportunity than deta has fought her entire career for.