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Post by ChrisW » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:15 am

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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:33 am

Nicho's top players at their peaks.

1. Taylor
2. MVG
3. Wright
4. Gando
5. RVB
6. Bristow


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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by TheMalteseDart » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:53 am

I also put ‘peak’ Wright that high. He is completely unplayable at some points, but I suppose all 6 of them have been like that at times
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Post by tungsten tossers » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:06 am

TheMalteseDart wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:53 am I also put ‘peak’ Wright that high. He is completely unplayable at some points, but I suppose all 6 of them have been like that at times
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Post by Randall » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am

Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am

Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
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Post by Randall » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am

sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am

Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
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Post by Randall » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:59 am

sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
The top 2 are largely unarguable
Did Wright sustain a peak long enough to be 3rd?
You could argue for hump at the back end of last year?
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Post by The Thorn » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:06 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
It's Kyle (RIP) - 134.84
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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:18 pm

The Thorn wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:06 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
It's Kyle (RIP) - 134.84
Ahhh right you are - https://dartsnews.com/pdc/anderson-clai ... almost-135

PDPA list it as JDS's officially - https://pdpa.co.uk/averages/
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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:25 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:59 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:16 am Depends really what time frame you put on a "peak"
Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
The top 2 are largely unarguable
Did Wright sustain a peak long enough to be 3rd?
You could argue for hump at the back end of last year?
Wright's peak and tournament averages during the 2021 Matchplay are not far off the numbers Taylor was doing in Blackpool in his 2009 and 2010 pomp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_World_Matchplay

Current Hump is not quite at the same level as peak Taylor or MVG, but I can imagine he's top 10 in terms of peak form.
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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by Randall » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:28 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:25 pm
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:59 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:38 am
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:34 am
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:29 am

Agreed.
If not its arguably who has the highest recorded average
Jose De Sousa in the PDC :)

I think it should be measured over at least a significant tournament, probably an entire season or year.
The top 2 are largely unarguable
Did Wright sustain a peak long enough to be 3rd?
You could argue for hump at the back end of last year?
Wright's peak and tournament averages during the 2021 Matchplay are not far off the numbers Taylor was doing in Blackpool in his 2009 and 2010 pomp - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_World_Matchplay

Current Hump is not quite at the same level as peak Taylor or MVG, but I can imagine he's top 10 in terms of peak form.
The boards are driving that though
I'd still argue Taylor in 00_02 was his peak
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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by vizIIsto » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 pm

2009 EC will always remain ridiculous




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Post by sennafan24 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:28 pm The boards are driving that though
I'd still argue Taylor in 00_02 was his peak
1. Agreed that the evolution of the Unicorn boards will flatter Wright's numbers somewhat compared to Taylor's.

2. Possibly.
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vizIIsto wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 pm 2009 EC will always remain ridiculous
As will his average in the 2009 World Final.
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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by Randall » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:36 pm

sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 pm
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:28 pm The boards are driving that though
I'd still argue Taylor in 00_02 was his peak
1. Agreed that the evolution of the Unicorn boards will flatter Wright's numbers somewhat compared to Taylor's.

2. Possibly.
Taylor in 09 on 01 boards wouldn't have been any better imo
Comparing people's averages today to the past is pointless so it's probably best judged on simply events won over a period.
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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by vizIIsto » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:56 pm

Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:36 pm
sennafan24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:32 pm
Randall wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:28 pm The boards are driving that though
I'd still argue Taylor in 00_02 was his peak
1. Agreed that the evolution of the Unicorn boards will flatter Wright's numbers somewhat compared to Taylor's.

2. Possibly.
Taylor in 09 on 01 boards wouldn't have been any better imo
Comparing people's averages today to the past is pointless so it's probably best judged on simply events won over a period.
Darts Orakel argues that the best version of Taylor since 2003 is right before losing the 2011 WC quarter-final against Mark Webster.

Granted their calculations don't cover matches before that period, so they likely narrowly missed out on an even better version of Taylor.




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Re: TDF Twitter Watch (Sponsored by Rogg)

Post by vizIIsto » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:57 pm

Also this seems to suggest that Littler currently is already better than both peak Jackpot and peak Wade.




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